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Saturday, November 17, 2012

X-Dagger Explication


The posting of my WW-II X-dagger on our Fairbairn website raised all sorts of interest, both positive and negative. These knives have been declared complete fakes by some and home-made knives by others. Those of the opposing viewpoint consider them the prototypes of all commando knives. So let’s look at why the furor. http://www.fairbairnsykesfightingknives.com/rarest-of-them-all.html Shown below is a Shanghai Dagger.
Story line one: W.E. Fairbairn and E.A. Sykes approached Wilkinson Sword Co. and asked them to produce a specialized fighting knife. This knife was to be based on a model they brought with them. That model was/is called the Shanghai dagger. There are some who say the Shanghai knife was designed by, or in conjunction with, an American Marine named Samuel Yeaton. Anyway, these knives were made in the Shanghai Municipal Police Armoury about 1939. By the way, so far, all of this information is readily available from numerous reliable sources. Model 1888 Lee-Metford bayonets were converted into these roughly five inch bladed daggers. According to W.E. Fairbairn’s son, you could get two of the daggers out of one blade. The handles were coke bottle shaped and made of various materials including Ivory, hardwoods, and brass. They were either checkered or knurled depending, on the material. The guards were made from pieces of aluminum left over from making bullet-proof vests. Our X-Dagger shown below, made from an 1888 Lee-Metford bayonet.
Story line two: W.E. Fairbairn takes a number of these same bayonets to Wilkinson (or another armoury depending on the source of your information) and asks them to build them into fighting knives, using the shanghai dagger as an example of the conversion process. A lot of unwanted changes are made in the final design but after experimentation with the bayonets production begins with the introduction of the Wilkinson Sword Co. First Pattern, Fairbairn Sykes, Fighting Knife. There are some who insist this whole story is fabricated, that the knives (Shanghai or X-daggers) never existed, and any that do exist are counterfeits. They are adamant about this while having no proof. The whole story becomes one of opinions. I want to discuss as rationally as possible both sides of the story. While the detractors have no definitive proof that legitimate X-daggers did not exist, I have an X-dagger. Shown below is a Wilkinson First Pattern knife.

They say the reasons why X-daggers do not and cannot exist are abundantly clear:

·         X-daggers cannot be made from model 1888 bayonets

·         There are rivet holes where the tang needs to be

·         It is too labor intensive to remove the guard etc.

·         It would be quicker to forge and grind new blades

·         There is no documentation to support the Fairbairn story

·         All known x-daggers have come from North America
I want to tackle these excuses one at a time.  X-daggers, unlike unicorns, do exist. Whether they are legitimate WW-II knives or not is another argument. They do exist and they are made from Lee-Metford bayonets. This simple, incontrovertible fact, discredits many of the explanations of why they cannot exist. How do I know what bayonets they used? It is documented in several books and more concretely by the actual markings stamped into the ricasso of the blades. In my emails to more than one collector I have explained how they can be created. It is a simple process really, one that has been used for centuries. Let’s look at the process.

If you take and chop the bayonet tang off in the vicinity of the first rivet hole you eliminate a lot of time consumed in disassembling the bayonet. Just cut it right off and discard the handles and baggage for attaching a bayonnet to a rifle. To convert the blade’s remaining tang to accept a First Pattern style handle you must attach what is called a “rat-tail” or “stick” tang. Simply splitting the remaining original tang and then any blacksmith or cutler could braze, silver solder, or weld a new tang to the stub left from cutting off the handle. Wow that takes care of the major obstacle already. In the process of heating it for the installation of the new tang the guard could be knocked off.

Backing up, let me ask you. How did they make two Shanghai daggers out of one bayonet blade? Did that question enter your mind? One half of the bayonet blade would have no tang at all. The other half would have no point and a tang with rivet holes.  The only solution is something like I have outlined or to call Samuel Yeaton, W.E. Fairbairn and his son liars. Basically that is what some experts are implying. Am I denying there may be counterfeits in the market? No I am not, but to declare all examples as fakes is to miss an opportunity to explore possibilities.

One person asked me how could an X-dagger have a First Pattern handle if it was supposed to be made before the First Pattern knives? Think about it. One of Fairbairn’s Shanghai daggers had a knurled brass coke bottle shaped handle. It was one of those knives made in 1939-40. When you allow your opinions to be sublimated to some objective thinking you could see where the First Pattern knives may have instead been fitted with X-dagger style handles. Huh? Hadn’t thought of it that way had you?

All of the X-daggers come from North America, according to one train of thought. The fact that my knife came from an attic in England was instantly dismissed by one noted author because “The person who sold you this knife was by your account 100% legit, but that does not help nail down the history of the knife.  The fact that it came out of the UK does not in itself help as we do not know where it came from in the first place..” So why not call this person a liar too? There is no way to argue with this reasoning. If I had a document signed by the original owner stating when and where he acquired it, how could I prove that it was true? I think at some point you have to follow your own instincts and tell the experts to kiss off.

4 comments:

Ruben said...

Im sure that owning one of these knives makes you make up any story to make it more real....fairy tale from the days of windrum...

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knife-fighter said...

forum experts abound without any research to back up their poisonous drivel. Owning the knife has nothing to do with Dr.Windrum or my conclusions. The knife came from england not canada and was the property of a WW-II veteran. So piss off.

knife-fighter said...

you might gather from my previous post i am pissed. When some moron decides to trample on the character of a good man who has done extensive research, is a fellow knife lover, who wrote and had published several influential books, and who served honorably in the military, Yes I get irritable. What right do some people fee they have to publicly and anonymously slander a good man's name because perhaps he wrote somethings that he believed in but they do not. What sort of low life would demean a fellow man without knowing him or giving him the respect he deserves for what he has done. Are there some errors in Dr. Windrum's books, perhaps. That is still no excuse to attack him or his work. We have become a very uncivil society when men can not amiably disagree but must rush to judgement and cast aspersions on one another. I have been similarly attacked by this narrow minded man and I refuse to permit anymore of his posts on my blog. Note it is MY BLOG. Reuben Do not come here to attack me and think i will not respond. If we can have a civil discourse I am all for that. Otherwise follow my advice on the previous posting.

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